Sunday, December 24, 2006

love and luck....

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonderful animation ... let's all raise a glass to the Lord of Misrule in the dead of Winter.

Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:23:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol :)

Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:02:00 pm  
Blogger Russell CJ Duffy said...

god bless the green man eh?

Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:37:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dog bless Coca Cola for the jolly fat red one :)
Red is so much more marketable than green, after all it is the colour our eyes are drawn too...
I noticed coke left out his traditional helpers....is beelzebub really so hard to sell? surely there's an angle there...

Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:27:00 am  
Blogger Russell CJ Duffy said...

apparently there is some argument now between certain parties as to who first changed santa's clothes from green to red. some say it was tolkien.

Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:11:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the Coca Cola story just a myth, then? Always liked that one, took it as an indictment of the evils of capitalism. You'll be telling me next that Santa Clause doesn't actually exist.

Friday, December 29, 2006 6:59:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure that as far as marketing goes, coke pushed it out into the known world, Tolkien doesn't really have the audience to instigate such a mass conforming conversion, although his name is household, his works are not read by so many...
Tolkien was cultish, a very big cult as such things go, but still cultish, same goes for others like Asimov and probably many more (just gone blank on names...) Like traditional poets, people know the name 'Wordsworth' but will most likely struggle to say what he wrote. Sometimes the works outshine the author, like Frankenstien...
Oops, possibly off the redman greenman track there but hey ho...

having said all that, it is believed that the coke thing is a myth, but isn't that the spirit of xmas? believing in myths....
(the red and white is believed to be from St Nicholas's bishop's garments...)

oh, and as another titbit of info, St Nicholas is also the patron saint of prostitutes...
I assume this is the churches way of saying he's their pimp...

Friday, December 29, 2006 9:53:00 am  
Blogger Russell CJ Duffy said...

not sure if tolkien is 'responsible'. he certainly produced and published his father christmas letters at about the same time as coca cola supposedly changed santa's costume from green to red and of course his version of santa was dressed in red!

af for a large audience, isn't the lord of the rings the second best selling book of all time? second only to the bible?

Friday, December 29, 2006 10:25:00 am  
Blogger murmurists said...

Hello all - Hope you had a good xmas. This is the bit in the middle - between xmas & new year, of course. Always seems odd to me. This chat seems to fit into that, somehow. The Coke Claus thing I know of; and my appreciation of Tolkein is limited to having to read Bilbo B at junior school. Asimov I did read, when I was 13 or so; along with AC Clarke and EE Doc Smith - as you do. Sci-Fi I have a soft spot for still - though I don't read any. But Mr T is not my thing at all; neither is that other fantasy phenomenon, what's it called? ...posh kid, glasses... I pickedon of those books up once in a Waterstones or Borders in London... JK Rowling, isshe called? ... I thought it wasw pretty badly-written, actually; quite mannered, obvious. That's based upon a chapter - but I thought enough for me! My then partner was really into those books, so I just wanted to see what the fuss was about... Yeh, xmas is about myths, Inc. I like myths, fiction. I prefer the Keith Moon variety to that of the upper-middleclass jolly hocky sticks variety. All that Famous 5-esque Hogwarts etc. (is it in, ah, Harry Potter?)... No thanks. Tolkein I know is a damn sight more literary, but fantasy per se seemsnot to interest me, as a genre. That's strange, I always think; as my interests clearly extend that way. Never liked Star Trek or Star Wars either. I can appreciate the charm of the Shatner era series; but Star Wars films are just cowboy films, I think. (A Feeling I might get into trouble here - if there's a fan watching!) I prefer 2001, Silent Running, Andromeda Strain, Dark Star.

On the H Potter et al front: Anyone ever read Viz? I remember that strip, think it was called 'Johnny Silver'; skit of upperclass, adventurous kid, with his dog; on his summer hols, with his uncle, no doubt; sees fire in forest; starving poor people just keeping themselves warm; he reports them to the police. Hilarious.

Friday, December 29, 2006 10:52:00 am  
Blogger murmurists said...

*above features a welter of typos for your reading enjoyment*

Friday, December 29, 2006 10:54:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CJ - tolkien might have sold more than the bible, but it doesn't begin to compete with billboards, in shop adverts, TV... Everywhere you look will be a coke ad within 10 paces...tolkien? got a huge spurt of publicity when the films/games/t-shirt thing happened, but still, nowhere near the saturation of a large company.
If 20million people have looked at one of his books...what a bout the other 95% of the population?
(glib figures, no research gone into that at all)...
:) oh well, that was a fun ranty type thing...what's next?

Dr A - Dark Star? is that the one were the crew has to persuade a bomb that it really does want to blow up? Seem to recall enjoying it long ago, shall have to look for it again..
'JK Rowling, isshe called?'
made me think of Gollum... :)


As for the star wars thing...I thought they were deliberately based on old spaghetti western styles...might be wrong, I often am.
Then again, most films tend to follow basic formats...girl meets boy etc...
man kills man etc....

was it the greeks who decided there are only nine script plots or somesuch?...once again, without bothering to use this marvellous research tool at my fingertips, I don't really know much...

well, that's far too much writing from me...

L8rz

Friday, December 29, 2006 8:04:00 pm  
Blogger murmurists said...

Dark Star is that, Inc, yes.

You're contentions might be light on dogged stat research, Inc, but I reckon your point holds; and that's without getting all rarefied, wondering at how much one gets from one viewing experience over the other. Coke is omnipresent, for sure. I love that line from Futurama - a genius quip, something like: '...that's when Coca Cola bombed France...'. There's a lot of predictive intelligence in that, if you stop and think.

Friday, December 29, 2006 8:14:00 pm  
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Friday, December 29, 2006 8:14:00 pm  

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